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Hi everyone, I'm reading Oracle documentation a...... Joël Péran Sep 24, 2019, 10:57
Hi Joël, I'm currently maintaining several 11gR...... Score: 500 PtsScore: 500 PtsScore: 500 PtsScore: 500 PtsScore: 500 Pts Ales Kavsek Sep 24, 2019, 11:30
Hello Joël, well, this is just an exercise to s...... Score: 600 PtsScore: 600 PtsScore: 600 PtsScore: 600 PtsScore: 600 Pts Bruno Vroman Oct 01, 2019, 14:53

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Subject: Question about licensing
Author: Joël Péran, France
Date: Sep 24, 2019, 10:57, 56 days ago
Os info: Windows 2K12
Oracle info: 12.1.0.2
Message: Hi everyone,

I'm reading Oracle documentation about licensing, extended support and so on but I kind of starting having a severe headache. So I wanted to stay healthy enough to work a bit at my desk, that's why I am asking you my question :)
Our database is in 12.1.0.2 which have extended support till July 2021. We will not be able to migrate to 12.2.0.3 right now (and even in 2020) so I am wondering something. What is the risk if my company doesn't take extended support for 12.1 ? We have never raised a request, I'm just looking for documentation on MOS and most of the time, I can find what I am looking for in different sites (Tom Kytes, here ... and so on). If we stay in 12.1 for more than a year without taking extended support, what is the risk ? ...
I know this may be a weird question but I'm not in charge of the oracle budget, and the ones that are responsible of it never want to pay :)
Regards,
Joel
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Subject: Re: Question about licensing
Author: Ales Kavsek, Slovenia
Date: Sep 24, 2019, 11:30, 56 days ago
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Message: Hi Joël,

I'm currently maintaining several 11gR2 databases without extended support in fact we were in such position several times in the last 25 years.
Personally, I'm comfortable working with DB's that're out of support. However, this does not mean it's a wise approach from our (my) side.
In 25 years I opened just a handful of SR, mostly because I prefer to count on myself when resolving technical difficulties - and even in those handful service requests (the most severe case was on-line redo log corruption that took down a database instance that that we could not startup any more because of the corrupted redo) we never received a "solution" from Oracle, we ended rescuing ourselves with our own knowledge (and imagination) -- imo, if you're not big enough (or loud enough) Oracle customer, don't expect much from support.
Nowadays, bugs that are security related are those that worries me the most. Oracle become a golden target for the hackers; for eample modern Windows 10 is a fortress compared to a security weak Oracle RDBMS - and things improves slowly.
If that's not something that worries you, then I would not worry if I were you, besides, fully functioning autonomous DB is around the corner, no more worries ;-).

Regards,
Ales
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Subject: Re: Question about licensing
Author: Bruno Vroman, Belgium
Date: Oct 01, 2019, 14:53, 49 days ago
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Message: Hello Joël,

well, this is just an exercise to see if you can wake up Murphy...

Of course it is very unlikely that having no extended support will cause problems, but you must be protected against the consequences... So I would go on the safe side and open my umbrella: some emails exchanged with the management who can decide to pay or not, so that they won't blame you "in case of" (and what I have already seen: when people have to take the responsibility "in case of", they prefer to find money and pay for the support ;-)

Best regards,

Bruno Vroman.
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